Ep 98. Jason Fried: It Doesn’t Have to Be Crazy at Work
“There’s a false sense of urgency. Most things can wait.”
Jason is Co-Founder and CEO of Basecamp, a Chicago-based software company known for its innovative approach to work. He’s just released his third business book, It Doesn’t Have to Be Crazy at Work. Jason is a long-time proponent of keeping companies profitable, lean, and manageable. He believes in businesses -- not startups -- and that the only successful approach to business is a calm one. He and his co-founder are also the other of two other books, REWORK and REMOTE, and Jason also writes Inc.'s monthly Get Real column.
Stew and Jason talk about the many ways Jason has been able to have a profitable company without having his employees work more than 8-hour days, without having them work on nights or weekends, and without their taking “fakations” during which work interrupts. He eschews meetings, keeps teams small, and enables his employees to have uninterrupted time for thinking so they can actually get work done while at work without unnecessary meetings, calls, and check-ins. Jason advocates for a calm and humane workplace and describes how to make it a reality.